Health Care Debate

So far, I haven't weighed in on it. Not much time and I wanted to find out more before commenting as so much of what we hear from both sides seems self serving.

I recently did a long post on a forum I belong to, with many links. Just to be lazy, I'm reprinting the post here:


I would like to see government run catastrophic health insurance.
That's all.

On the other hand, it would be nice if there was single payer so that the big companies didn't have the advantage over smaller companies.

This whole thing needs more thought, but I am drop dead terrified of what's being shoved at us now.

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So, the evil insurance companies drop people who are too expensive. The govt would never do something awful like that:

Obama-Veterans

Dump the veterans on private insurers to save $540mil.
Sooooo, govt can do a better job insuring us all? Can't even afford injured soldiers. (note, BTW, that is CNN, not the evil, lyin' racist nazi FOX ).

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And speaking of veterans, how silly we brain damaged Nazi protesters are for thinking our beloved president would ever have "death panels."
Uh, well OK, maybe we are being silly on this one:

Your Life, Your Choices

But there's a bunch of other text in the bill itself that does seem to point to this. For me, this is one of those "needs more info" things.


But that inbred dimbulb Palin just mouths off with nothing to back her up:

Palin-Facebook

Oops, oh my, footnotes and direct references to the actual bill. How inconvenient. Here's a bit of that reading I need to do. Sometime.

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Now some Canadians think their health care is just spiffy and so much cheaper:

LA Times article

But then why:

Vancouver Sun article

Canadian Press Article

Freep-Eek!

And they have it very good compared to some.

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Let's have a taste of that gubbamint health care the triumviRAT of Pelosi/Reid/Obama want us all to have:

NHS Refuses Pain Killers

Birth Problem

NHS Sick Days

NHS aint sacrosanct

More Birth Follies

And the best of all:

Oops, wrong organ

"When the docs screw up.
They're incompetent boobs
Who you gonna sue?

NOOO BODY"
(sung to the Ghost Busters tune)

That guy can't do diddly about that cock up. BECAUSE IT'S GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE AND GOOD LUCK SUING THE GOVERNMENT.
Yeah, at first, we'll have private doctors and our loving benevolent gubbamint will just be the pocketbook. Don't be naive enough to think that will last. Just my opinion.

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Now this, THIS RIGHT HERE, is critical to understanding freedom loving people's fear of this plan and how our beloved president is not being completely forthright:

Keep your insurance?

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Champions of the health care bill will point to the profits of the insurance industry. But let's follow the money:

Obama connections

Shades of Cheney / Haliburton!

Aaaaand, speaking of money, those bad ol' insurance companies are just raking it in:

Profit Margins

Yeah, just look at all those insurance companies listed on the fastest growing chart:

Fastest Growing

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After all this, don't forget that at the beginning, I wrote that this whole thing needs more thought. I say we take a peek at the French system:

French system

It is having problems:

French Troubles

But it's still worth a look:

Another French system look

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Now, many folks point out how successful Medicare and Medicaid are. I do NOT think they are so damn successful, but until I get more info and links, I'll leave that one alone.